Chapter V.
[80] "There are four kinds of wisdom (or insight: Nana ) grouped into Property ( vimutti Nana ) liberation, including insight ( vipassana Nana ), [2] (or is obvious: intuition) directed Tue ( magga nana ), results in Property ( phala nana ) and mental reactions label ( palibimba Nana ) or knowledge to review, Photos General (patibimba) [3] of the four categories mentioned above wisdom, knowledge, insight means wisdom award escape is considered to be "freed from normally is, or only false perception is impermanent things alone[4] (TL. awareness vice versa)" Wisdom Path, the key is to remove and abandon (anti-sexual) impact to Qingdao; Tue fruit, regarded as peace brought by St. fruit; Tue protest is considering a pure liberation. In the four types of knowledge mentioned "mental peace only by the Holy Fruit bring not listed on Tue liberation. "[5] Tue protest called object can not be freed. [6]
But some people, such as sex Andhakas not admit, that only a new kind of Wisdom meet liberating qualities, and they have advocated indiscriminate opinion that any intellectual liberation itself are liberating quality of it. Related to this category was Sakavadin questioned, whereas the opposite sect agree approval.Also, when (the opposite sex) was asked, "Did any of Wisdom always liberated star quality?" etc .. (the opposite sex) again rejected the protest-related knowledge. etc .. When asked: "Is wisdom of someone who has reached the Sacred Way, there are qualities that or not?" - (opposite sex) rejected, because the knowledge to liberate religion from the causes cell infection (anasava).
So religion is not knowledge (knowledge) a person who is used to cultivate virtually accomplishments demonstrate Remember, that's why it is not called Wisdom Path Property. Therefore to rebuke (opposite sex) Sakavadin back said: "(Wisdom) of whom are progressing to enter the first Sacred Path," etc .. Thus, significant problems such should be understood in In any circumtances.
Rate Deliverance debate ends here.
Some people, such as schools Uttarapathakas (Mahayana), advocated the view that people with direct knowledge, such as Ananda him, knowing supernatural nature of the Buddha and so they know who is the One uneducated. [81] when Sakavadin ask questions, (opposite sex) agreed to approve.
"Look" - this is aimed at those who have reached the insight they themselves are pursuing. "As it has become transforming nature ( yotrabhu ) [8] " etc .. is mentioned to demonstrate a new person during cultivation Sacred Path will not enter meditation just like those who are in high season than.
Through the statement: "By understanding how religious people, such as Ananda, sublime know where the Blessed One?" advocated direct opposite sex-related knowledge who have become uneducated rank by saying: "Blessed is the Tier uneducated" But this is not a level of knowledge of the uneducated. Therefore, in spite of the announcement is set, but it has no basis.
Rate debate on knowledge of an uneducated level ends here.
Some people, such as schools Andhakas still advocated for meditation had imported through land titles and land clear, then there is knowledge (awareness by it) called the (perceived) corruption ( viparita ). [ 9] As regards these people, Sakavadin questioned, opposite sect agree approval.
Opposite sect said: "The impression emerged through land titles, not the land. Here we are aware of the object of perception (or awareness) of land, so cognition (the sect of invert) called expert knowledge. This is what (the opposite sex) target.
Then there are words that: "Eternal interspersed with ephemeral" said vv.la Sakavadin words to convince (the opposite sex) as follows: From "section of land (or earth)" "can be interpreted as characterized impressive extensions of land, an object of knowledge, (or concept), psychedelic nature. [10] Regarding the characteristics above, subjects perceived knowledge (or concept) to earth can not be called erudite knowledge is adept. recognize "permanent impermanence interspersed with" really is a true distortion, etc .. [11] and nothing but the things mentioned above? opposite sect rejected because there is no sign "distorted at all," but (the opposite sex) agreed to endorse the sensuous object (or concept) to earth.
Word of expression "elements (aggregates)" relates to those who have extensive knowledge.
For the question: "Are you Arhat also kind of hallucinations?" etc .. (the opposite sex) rejected, because do not see any signs of corruption; (Double prime) agree agree involving land titles. "Is it (the opposite sex) as everything is a" land "at all or what?" Means "affordable opposing sect considered everything marked earth created an ingenious work. [82] Everything is" land "or do both? Because no such thing exists, that should Sakavadin rejected.
Sakavadin then asked, "The Earth does not exist or what? Nobody can enter meditation jhana only by land titles commemorate all?" Sect opposed to say: "Does not exist an object of knowledge (or concept) of land or what?" Is there anyone to enter meditation jhana memorial only by land title is not the wind, fire, earth which is just nothing? "Really land still exists objectively (there)," etc .. If the (land) really exist objectively, then enter Zen Jhana through awareness of (land), as a real in reality, this perception is misleading results.
To demonstrate, when entered Nip-table too, the reverse and remove the entire Noble Eightfold perception is wrong, this proves to be true Nip-table.
Rate debate misguided perception ends here.
There are some people, like Uttarapathakas sect, advocated the view that "because Buddha said anyone who will join the Noble Eightfold Assurance can penetrate the (perceived)" True God, [12] " therefore only new normal ordinary people are not sure grasp hallucinations (wisdom) religious piety needed to penetrate (the base). related to this person Sakavadin Rating question: "are there people that uncertainty is (that knowledge) or what? etc ..
Here Assurance of opposite sex is a synonym for Sacred Path [resulting level Arhat]. Thus the phrase "to infiltrate ensure" means to penetrate the Holy Way, towards the Holy Way. Rival sects agree approval concerning a person's insight after having realized that the Blessed judge that person is capable of.
To clarify the affirmation of the opposite sex is wrong, Sakavadin opposite question: "Does anyone dare get Assurance (Sacred Way) or not? Etc .. here because (the opposite sex) has rejected the first question, for any who may be secured (ie the Holy Way) by cultivating Qingdao, do not need to enter the Sacred Path knowledge. as for the second question, (opposite sex) accepted for anyone (had reassured opposite sex or Holy Way) does not need to knowledge. In the third question, (opposite sex) rejects interrogation question to be: "is there anyone sure to be unsecured (or Fold? "etc .. Since this is contrary to clause (opposite sex) has been launched.
Also, in the first question, a fourth point is scrutinized, interrogated three points away in the direction of "Is there someone who does not understand Assurance sure (meditation) entered the Holy Path?" etc .. rival sects rejected the first sentence "because the first target of Sacred Path [83] do not have the necessary knowledge. [13] (right opposite) accepted the second question, because (as a users can be assured the opposite sex) do not need to (knowledge in) Sacred Way more. (Delegation of the opposition) dismissed the third question, as this is contrary to the (clause) dispatched to issued against.
Also, after the first division of the question into eight sections examine three points raised by the question, "Is there someone who does not understand meditation does not lead to reasonable Fold Assurance etc ..? meaning should be understood as explained above.
Also, after the first division of questions into ten sections, based on ten points which have to examine, namely, "There exists Fold Assurance or not?" etc ..
In that case because the Holy Path Knowledge Assurance Sure enter opposite sex "means knowledge Sacred Path, therefore," Sacred Paths exist Assurance reasonable? "The issue has been raised in relation to this problem. However, (the opposite sex) dismissed, as asserted: "There is guaranteed the right path." But still agreed to endorse the claim: "it will also comprise more knowledge."
This is the method of mindfulness and what remains. Meaning opposite approach are clear enough.
"Is there someone who has only reached the first transition phase of moving nature nature (gotrabhuno) [ie primary Noble Eightfold meditation]? Etc ..: - this was raised to prove that (they I) what can not be a prime player without reaching it. "the Buddha knew that" means (Blessed) said thanks to the strength of his meditation. Indeed, you do not need the wisdom of (opposite sex) to enter the Sacred Path guaranteed. therefore, clauses of the (opposite sex), whether established for this reason has not yet been proven.
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There are some people, like Andhakas sect, said that "for Ariya (Noble) any kind of insight that is, both are in the supernatural; they advocate are the entire knowledge of discrimination. [14] Contact relating to this issue, Sakavadin questioned, while rival sects agree approval.
As for the mental examination of regulatory variables, (the opposite sex) rejected, it involves knowledge about the person's seal entered meditation. However (opposite sex) agree agree dialectical knowledge. [15] As for the question: "Is everyone in this world has the knowledge processed or what?" etc .. (the opposite sex) agreed to endorse in case they are normal ordinary people. However, (the opposite sex) Property agrees to endorse the saints. As for the verification of all the concepts, (opposite sex) rejected concerning the problem of achievement of someone who has achieved the Zen Jhana . However, (the opposite sex) agreed to endorse for the supernatural.
"Achievement of a meditation enter" etc .. need to be re-examined: Is it all clear perception takes place in this case were of analytical grade or do both? [84] As a whole aware only in the form of analysis is, therefore, the excuse homogeneous characteristics in the word "whole" that (the opposite sex) instant verification of all types of knowledge are that (analysis).
Scores of discrimination debate ends here.
Brackets are of two types: custom insole ( Sammatisacca ) and Brackets ( ariyasacca ). But some people, such as schools Andhakas not accept such a distinction, and undertakings, through the unity of the word "base" where ordinary skill can only perform its objects only. As for the mistake they say so, starting point of this debate purification false principle (this is not true).
On this point, the opposite sex and asked: "There should be the same?" vv.Sakavadin accepted meanings related to the Holy Roman Emperor.
On "procedure to" a question of how to position, and that would mean "let's come to an agreement" or "separate it from its base" means human wisdom.
Sakavadin asked again: "Are there just keep sole object is to base all?" opposite sect accepted. Sakavadin then asked, "what does that object is conventional truth or what?" etc .. to be able to convince (the opposite sex), such as: If you continue to get just the truth as an object, the object that has to be understood is the fact and nature "Noble" or not? etc ..
Hotel Rate continuous debate ends here.
Some people, such as schools Andhakas, has advocated for the ability to see (read) the ideas of others is the mind only one object only. They infer from the statement [technical] in "penetration into the process thinking [another person's mind."] [17] related only thoughts only. Sakavadin questioned, while the opposite sect agrees to approve.
At this point one sees clearly "been craving conscious control", etc. .. etc .. is considered craving his subjects. Because of the new sentence "So there is someone ..." etc .. are in place, to try to convince us not to consider pure meditative reflections made only single object only.
"Promotion ( Phassa ) is regarded as an object" means for objects only known as a contact only. This is also the method used in the sentence, "sensations ( vedana ) as well as objects," such as what remains.
Also, when asked: "Is it not to be [85] wisdom have been exposed as an object [reappears cognitive thought or what?" object] agree assent, because when someone is considering the communication features as pure communication, the communication is only taken as an object spirituality [18] only. But when asked again: "But is not aware Property includes both the conscious process of exposure or what?" (opposite sex) rejected, because there is no Buddhist texts do mention this at all. This is also related to a method of feeling etc ..
At this point, in order to establish the views after proving the reasons by which the clause is sequential basis, the (opposite sex) asked: "Is it mental awareness, while having limited places partial reflection process [of others]? " But here this perspective even be set up by saying it was not toward clearly proven.
Rate debate on the subject of spiritual ends here.
Future, including what is going to happen recently and what did not happen in a near future. Related to the first idea, then there is the so-called absolute position, but only one is pooled in a direction or a moment of knowledge [19] only. But some people, such as schools for the location Andhakas of any small part of what the future may also occur. Related to this point, Sakavadin mentioned questions, whereas the opposite sect agree approval.
To try to convince the opposite sex is "As you (ie the opposite sex), if we know (any fraction certain future), if we can grasp the near future through knowledge is the source [ 20] (future) not? vv.Sakavadin to ask: "do we have the ability to tell the future through grasp the roots (the future) does not? etc ..
Here "through roots" and all that remains are synonymous with the cause [21] "The main reason is it creates a certain result. (Cause) This is the" source "has ie which causes play a source, a base. Similarly, it is also "predestined" (hetu) [22] because it emanates, continue (work). also (karmic ) also known as the "cause" [23] in the sense that (it causes) created and disposition, as if the words: "to assume responsibility." (cause) here also "dependent origination " [24] because of it (the cause) is created. also known as the" origin [25] "since it comes out. (cause) also is" roots " [26] because it do appear, do emerge. (causes) also known as the "fulcrum"[27] it made sense objects [28] . Likewise (causes) also known as bond "relationship " [29] interpreted on the basis that it appeared" also known as "collective departure" [30] as from which it derives.
[86] Since we can not know consciousness directly through these methods, so the opposite sect denied: "not like that". In the question: "So we have to know how the future does not correlate with the cause, basis, and direct proximity to sense what sense, I just learned the basics through correlated materials personnel only. This method is also applicable where what remains.
To demonstrate a similar part unknown future. "Phase one was the expert?" etc .. are mentioned. And the Buddhist scriptures: "For Pataliputta" [31] etc .. have been included in the future to prove that part has also been known. But because this is not evidence of wisdom where all the future part, therefore it may not be invoked as evidence.
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"Since there are comments that: -" When the whole phenomenon is realized only impermanent all, the meditation , as well as a phenomenon that should also be considered as impermanent, there are some who Andhakas, to advocate for the full current location, with no distinction at all " [32] in relation to such advocates Sakavadin ask:" is the current position reasonable? "opposing sects accepted this.
Now if the "whole" of the current position through the current, because the (current) to be held upright in the present moment. This is really happening so, (ie current knowledge) would have to be known by the mind. Because two improbable location at the same time [where the same subject self-consciousness].
To remind [33] : "it is clear, right?" Sakavadin asked: "By the very act of understanding reasonable?" In the first question, the opposite sect denies. Can not know the same behavior understanding. However, for the second question, (opposite sex) to agree to agree, because there is constant ongoing. Saying "while witnessing impermanence happen next" means if we recognize the impermanence that? This is the method of meditation "to discover whether we object acts conscious mind through affordable?" and the other thing.To hinder (opposite sex) do not get the opportunity to pretend, "Did we reach the reasonable exposure through contact?" etc ..
But to establish a proposition, opposite sect questioned: "[87]" Is the whole thing is just phenomenal all? "Etc .. Sakavadin agreed to endorse the position that can not receive out as an act of conscious mind, nor by the object position. therefore, the clause of the (opposite sex) but is set, but did not stand.
Rate debate current position ends here.
Some people, such as schools Andhakas undertakings, as some have argued that "both the Buddha and his disciples taught the truth being reached fruition, Sacred Path," similar to the Buddha, his disciples again may assert any ownership also gained achievements [34] . Concerning these Sakavadin asked: "Is it a normal disciples also done things like this?" Rival sects agree approval.
At this point, if you like Buddha, a disciple can reach St. Fruit position, then (disciple) because it can also enter your own insight to know who the fruits of a project Save, to know is characteristic of accomplishment. Namely, "A person like that will just have to regenerate once only", and then will move from the family to other families where many different realms. That person will not be reborn than seven times. "To try to convince Sakavadin questioned:" Is a disciple also the same? It can map to be proposed to the special nature where each church work? 'Adaptation opposition denies this.
Because the disciples had booked the place achievement, therefore "Is it a well versed disciple (understanding the fruits of) the others?" etc .. this was raised to trace the causes. Here we have the following meanings: Enlightened very understanding others and their achievements are known to be both the level of development of different achievements anymore, so he can assert that: (achievements) in connection relation to this world and this (ie Sainthood) are more related to the realms of life to come.Therefore who understands (related knowledge) to other people's ideas, he can learn a lot of different classes of beings attain this result Holy Scripture He was over it by thinking thoughts that. Was a disciple also be skilled so on (knowledge relating to other people thinking like that? "
"Are there concepts St. Sravaka about the Aggregates reasonable?" etc .. that is, like the Buddha, if a Holy Bible Sravaka know works, then you know it can also be the concept. This is to say to convince: "Did St. Sravaka get that position or not? Does he have understood and disseminated to others how these concepts in their own ability or not?" [88] Does the Bible Sravaka there is someone who knows the excesses and shortcomings of the regime? "Etc .. has been said up to try to persuade." Like the Buddha, if St. Sravaka understand holy, is the Omniscient Tier will also do so. Then St. Sravaka is a winner rival sect. This method must be related to the question "Is the Holy Sravaka becomes Sacred Path predestined to appear in places where it does not yet exist Sacred Path? Etc ..
As for the question: "Did St. Sravaka have that position?" (Opposite sex) to be rejected, a St. Sravaka whether ignorance, or lack of position, also can provide details (about the achievements of others).Moreover, other varieties Omniscient Buddha, St. Sravaka it can not agree on St. Fruit. Therefore opinion opposing sects are not set.
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Chapter VI
[89] In the phrase: "Able to Import laws certainly, is good all things extreme points [36] , this is the meaning Qingdao, fruit. But because when someone has reached St. Paths that make the opposite sex is guaranteed, even if the sword [for them] has emerged and to an end, therefore it was suggested that, among those who sent such Andhakas, ensuring that this is the unconditioned, eternal perspective review. [37] In relation to this category was Sakavadin questioned, while agreeing that the opposite sect endorsed.
At this point, "Are the laws certainly Nip-table?" vv.lai been called into question, in order to clarify this issue, if this law is certainly unconditioned, then so too must be a kind of something unconditioned.Meaning comparative questions this view quite clear.
"Is there someone else?" etc .. again been raised to explain this law or not is certainly unconditioned. For questions: "Is Noble Arhat is unconditioned? Phai opposition rejected." So clearly this is the beginning and the end. " [38] As for the question:" Must Does law is certainly a cause (or compounded)? "(opposite sex) also rejected, because that law certainly does exist, even if the Noble ended. in the question" Must certainly reasonable laws starting at Enterers? "etc .. all here too, we should understand in this sense even the normal sense, and vice versa. When asked:" are there five categories unconditioned? "(opposite sex) rejected, for not found any yet confirmed Buddhist texts there are five types of unconditioned. When asked again, opposite sects agree approval for [39] secured four stages completed, called the law uncertain and because Nip-table is unconditioned.
Problem misinterpret the law to make sure [40] are required to clarify and explain why only the "law of certainty" could be called unconditioned wrongly so.
Concentration Rate legislation debate certainly ends here.
"Because the words of the Buddha in the chapter discusses the causal laws that says:" No matter who Tathagata (Tathagata) has appeared or not, the law of dependent origination fixed persists [41] etc .. [90 ] some people, such as schools and Mahimsasakas Pubbaseliyas [42] advocated the view that (the law) is unconditioned origination. [43] in relation to Sakavadin questioned them, while the opposite sect agree canopy St.
Questions like: "Is it ignorance is unconditioned?" and other matters referred to unravel see ignorance and similar issues related to the unconditioned or not. Meaning factors of ( anga ), known as the law of dependent origination, which was confirmed in Beijing Vibhanga of origination ( Paticcasumuppada )[44] "It is because of ignorance give rise to the issue (ie operational" karma ")," etc. .. is mentioned to understand the perspective of Buddhist texts affirm as follows: by examining the true meaning of things, "what is called being well things just" kick "only." [45] this is the true meaning of what is said above as follows, "this is considered prime objects exist only as fruit, though only exist where everything is also the fruit only, "this element alone does not appear anywhere apart from" ignorance, "etc .. Moreover, this element is also another name given to" ignorance "and the remaining causality. Whether who Tathagata (Tathagata) has emerged or not, the appearance due to ignorance as the operational (coefficient), etc .. and then consciously and what is also emerging. Therefore the proposition "Because of ignorance emerged or operational actions (karma)," existing things are also the consequences (karma) is to say, the reasons, things was set consequences (now), and the appearance things are also the consequences (now) means that, by reason, clearly defined consequences universe is (now) - reviews mean ignorance.
Sakavadin ask the question: Is it (ignorance) is unconditioned or what? Nip-table and also so? In view of its own, rival sects agree approval. Also, when asked: "Are both of which are invisible because both or what?"(Delegation of the opposition) Buddha rejected because this passage does not confirm this, anyway according to my opinion, (the opposite sex) has agreed to approve.
In the remaining clauses, too, because this is the method. By following the same methodology as was used to explain the above.
Rate table debate about origination rules end here.
Since there are Buddhist texts say: " O monk Chu, the Four Noble Truths, the reliable (sustainable) and invariant [46] ". Some people, such as schools Pubbaseliyas undertakings is the Four Noble Truths carries unconditioned nature. Concerning them, Sakavadin questioned, [91] the opposite sex agree approval.
Article Sakavadin meant that: "In the Four Truths is Suffering, the Noble Truth aprons and events [47] This has its cause, and then re-unconditioned sole Removal [48] . In the Cessation of Suffering never corresponding events occur (the event) just unconditioned alone. " Therefore (the opposite sex) to say "yes, right there." However the views of (sect opposed) as follows: Anybody mention Noble Truth is only considered an event only. Likewise when we mention the apron and Truth Path. Removal is only one confirmed soles (abstract) includes several related properties, namely the restrictions, the causes and the subsequent progression. And Noble Truth can not exist etc .. in addition to the specific characteristics of the First Noble Truth, such as obstructing such work, and what sort of thing.
The meaning of "shelter" etc .. should be construed as was explained above. As for the question: "hard to exist?" etc .. (the opposite sex) agree agree because in view of the (opposite sex), the specific characteristics of the suffering persists. Related to the question: "There is suffering?" etc .. rival sects rejected, because there is no pain at all events.
Then all of the evaluation, although relatively simple and should be understood as in texts. After the conclusion to verify perspective, as Buddhist texts on unconvincing, because people have misunderstood its meaning.
Score Four Noble Truths debate ends here.
"For it is said:" Four formless realms, the estate (no action) " [49] Some people advocate that all the realms that are invisible because both. [50] In relation to the categories of people this Sakavadin ask: "is the land of boundless realms is unconditioned or what? 'Adaptation opposite agree approval.
What's left here are clear. Because Buddhist texts need to be authenticated was written without conscious sense, like not compelling.
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Concentration kill here means: This is a non-continuous string Quartet List Aggregates. (that is a conscious action sequences enter meditation jhana ) Because (this record) appears, was done, completed, are reached and have reached it. [92] (this action sequence) called "suspended" but can not have an affinity for the unconditioned or anything. Because of the lack of specific points where this state or another state. But some people, such as schools and Uttarapathakas Andhakas advocate: Because no behavior (of four aggregates), so it became the unconditioned [51] is. Concerning these people Sakavadin ask: "Is it just the achievement Concentration kill or what?" Rival sects agree endorsed this problem.
"Did anyone get this achievement create reasonable?" etc .. mention thanks to achievements, is achieved.There are those who create objects (material) and many others in compounded form (there are conditions).But no man can achieve things in the form of similar unconditioned whole.
"Pure and emerged from the cessation of suffering is related to achievement achievement (after emergence). However, this is not compounded where, and therefore rival sects rejected.
Through the expression: "What is necessary" (opposite sex) for that, because that event is not compounded, so definitely only a status quo unconditioned alone. In order to be no reason for that is being compounded, the general rules do not mean anything.
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Space has three ways to show as follows: restricted or sharply delimited, is separated from the object [52] and is not restricted. [53] In relation to the above issues we see, the the first way compounded anonymous space, there are two ways remains is purely conceptual. But some people, such as schools and Mahimsasakas Uttarapathakas advocate that this two-way (because only spiritual fictitious character) should not be considered as compounded, therefore that must be unconditioned. [ 54] Concerning these Sakavadin asked: "space exists or not? etc .. while it dispatched opposition agree approval.
The meaning of what is left is very obvious here.
Rate debate Spatial ends here.
Some people, among Andhakas example, assume that because we are aware of the space around us to cover, such as a keyhole etc .. therefore void all are tangible all. [55] (or visible). Concerning these issues Sakavadin asked: "I can see about space or not?" opposite sex is agreed endorsed.
Then, to correct (the opposite sex) as: "If it is so." Space is also a tangible object or what? "etc .. related to this question:" Is it because our eyes see reasonable? "etc .. (the opposite sex) rejected this, because not found this problem is to mention in the Buddhist scriptures. but (opposite sex) to agree to endorse because they saw the crevice between the pillars were erected vv.la it can easily be observed.
In between the "distance of two trees" eyes we can see the shape of the tree. But the gap between two trees, then no shape at all. That is the space; anything to appear in an action which are his imagination. But knowledge does not come from anywhere senses. [56]
This is also a method for reasoning in case of encountering what remains. (Clause), so this is not proven.
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Some people, like those who advocate Andhakas elements (aggregates) "land" etc .. is visible, because we "see" the fluctuations where rock, water, fire, trees, etc .. legs thanks to the suggestions of the body can do.Related to the above categories of people, the first question but the whole point of debate are so Sakavadin posed. Ongoing Meanwhile rival sect, the consent approval.
It should be understood as remaining in the texts and also has been explained above, namely, "The physical acts are seen?" by someone carried out. "Do we have the visible elements (aggregates) of" land "is not?" etc ..
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Chapter VII
Some people, such as Saiddhatthikas Rajagirikas and that the classification of the special qualities and physical concepts in a category of "material" and so on. is meaningless because we can not be pooled (sangaha ) objects together, like cows general column together. etc .. That is why there are some objects could not put together with other objects. [58] In relation to this issue Sakavadin ask questions to show objects that can be joined together in another form. Since this is his own opinion, so opposing sects agree approval.
Now to prove that there are aspects in which we see the set of objects can take place, "Are not there other object exists or what?" and issues such begins. This was obvious as I have mentioned above; so one should understand that: a specific metaphors like "Thanks rope such" etc .. seconded by opposition won the set in order to impose the views of the (opposite sex), Sakavadin not accept nor uncle, just dismissed earlier allegations as follows: "If it is by a rope or ..." etc .. this is what we should understand: "Even if we can not reject the inclusion (column) General bulls together and only by wire. etc .. so we have to accept that there are some objects that can still be concentrated together.
Rate debate about classifying objects ends here.
Some sects Rajagirikas and Siddhatthikas that paragraph (original) "joint knowledge" [59] seems meaningless because feelings or spiritual status quo can not be infiltrated together. Like the oil could seep into sesame seeds. [60] [95] Related to this issue Sakavadin question has much to prove still maintain an intimate relationship with other objects in other forms. [61] As this is personal opinion should Sakavadin rival sects agree approved.
Here the meaning is the other thing was obvious, as was mentioned above. In particular parable like, "Because the oil can seep into being with sesame (sesame)" etc .. drew opposite sects joined in prosecution. There are fundamental differences between sesame seeds (sesame) ø and sesame oil (sesame) as the difference between sensation and perception. "Sesame seeds (sesame)" is a common name for certain objects granular, peel and oil. If the appearance changes, we can not call "sesame seeds" are. Therefore this is not a comparison of equivalent objects are appropriate.
Rate the current state of debate on the spiritual relationship through the end here.
Some people like Rajagirikas and intellectual Siddhatthikas held that there was no so-called features, or events to occur because wisdom comes from that we can not get the "mental states" except those "objects exposed "by the exposure that out. Related to this issue raises the question Sakavadin, opposite sects agree approval.
"Coexistence" was mentioned concerning what is regarded as the same exists or is associated with the (associated). "Subjects exposed?" opposite sect questioned because (sect opposing) did not find a familiar name (usually) like so: - "The habits that mean?" If we call "spirituality" is something of wisdom (cittanissitako), then there is nothing wrong if we also called exposure is under exposed (phassanissitako) "so Sakavadin agree approval.
Rate characteristics debate ends here spiritually.
Dana has three categories: the will to abandon (something) or (dispassion), abstinence or (morality) and listed alms with material resources.
[96] ... Faith, humility, generosity good deeds. [63]
To give up something (or dispassion) when conditions are favorable we are targeting a certain purposes. In the "prudential him, [64] which means morality, convenient to have a chance. In the sentence," he offered refreshments donated (for good) [65] to be understood as something that maps ( ie alms) is delivered as a convenient opportunity to meet. The first question is generosity ( Dana ) [positively], ie, abandon or (anti-sexual) something. Or [in the sense as a tool] by which we bestow something. Morality is also a way of giving sense to interrupt or, cut out (something). When we perform over the world, we remove and self separate from the target regardless, is regarded as a status quo scary and dangerous. And this is a way to "alms". Finally generosity ( Dana ), again contained a gift (or gifts) made. This three-way distinction in reality just as it's only two: a pilot and two are at the heart of Bell [66] . (Animals alms). But some people, such as people under sect billion Siddhatthikas Rajagarikas and advocate for that Dana is just a state of mind only, not the physical (or alms). on these issues Sakavadin stated question: Is Dana is really a spiritual status quo or not? Rival sects agree approval.
And to convince (the opposite sex) Dana is also the matter of generosity, Sakadavin ask: "Are we able generosity of spirit, but what now?" etc .. Gender opposite rejected "on the basis of spiritual things can not give (alms) is, as if food and drink etc .." When stressed that question, (the opposite sex) Buddhist has recalled in the " giving protection (safety)." etc .. and again agreed to endorse and then rejected, because while agreeing agreement, opposite sect had not thought of sentence " opposite sex done alms" etc ..
"Is it true that giving comes in the aftermath arid barren?" etc .. as it is mentioned to explain the physical alms is regarded as a way of not giving. We should understand that material things like food and drink, etc .. are given away will not have direct results in the future; and just bring comfortable consequences alone.Then someone giving a bitter dose of hard, hard drink. even with good intentions (the now healthy) to reap the deplorable reasonable results. Nimba etc .. Like tree seed sprouting from Nimba. But once again the generosity here meant a sacrifice almost brings good thing, alms matter, whether as hard to take as well to create the desired results.
When (the opposite sex) have thought the way mentioned above: the generosity of spiritual significance. To demonstrate another way for the alms may be interpreted as physical gifts Sakavadin said: "Blessed One has declared that giving can bring the desired results," etc .. But ( opposite sex) still rejected because (opposite sex) do not realize that giving a saffron robes, etc., will bring such a desired result. The proof of this passage is also applied in view of (sect opposed) that. In view of Sakavadin, the generosity of material wealth can not bring the desired results as expected; [97] and only bring the desired results is not acceptable.
So when (the opposite sex), said: "Sure, say so are wrong," etc .. say it is very appropriate that we should not give alms only to bring the expected results want. Dana just means an almsgiving is done. The purpose of this lecture to dispel or clarify the confusion between the two meanings of the word Dana only.
Rate published debate on implementation and alms ends here.
Due consideration carelessly Buddhist texts say: "The merit is always growing both day and night" [67] and "O you monks, saffron robes ... you're using. " [68] etc .. some people, like Rajagirikas billion, Siddhatthikas and Sammitiyas advocate that really merit the results in a practical way. Involved in this issue Sakavadin questioned. "Does the merit increase depending on the tenure or what?" and opposing sects agree approval.
Then to try to persuade rival sects, namely the merit nothing more than a series of spiritual experiences similar to those exposed have been etc .. [69] and so on because they are identical to that exposure etc .. are those experiences are developed? "- (whispers)" Does exposure always develop? "etc .. are starting talking .. Because these experiences are not rise, the opposite sect rejects the whole. "like creepers" etc .. Sakavadin mention to try to persuade rival sects say, like creepers etc .. self-development without recourse to any help of any act or thought at all, affordable merit develop like that? " Because merit can not be such progress, the opposite sect denied, saying: "Not a chance".
In the question, "... for those who do not hesitate to consider adding something more?" rival sects agree agreed, because in the opinion of (sect opposed) previous target of giving is always growing because of tenure where the recipient charity, and so on merit will add to the announced candidates. When asked: .... for the unintentional promotion (claims) your job there? "etc .. rival sects rejected because alms always urge their intentions. In that case, even if the almsgiving not eyeing anything related subconsciously [70] (continuum) is always triggered continuously during generosity of previous targets.
"Back to the promotion done dispassion" means someone is not deliberately targeting certain objectives.[98] "A person thinking not weigh anything, which means that he is not interested at all. (Without tenure)." One who is not thinking or considering the target (alms) once anymore. "- ... the promotion was stopped where their subconscious and will gently for distribution to the goal of giving in the course of implementation of generosity.
The question is: Are merit increases for people who do not claim their almsgiving or idea may want to do? - "Those who unintentionally (boast)," which means they do not bother about it. "Someone attention to ..." means that when considering further, a series of psychic phenomena will emerge causing him to bother thinking. Sentence here can write at a distance as possible in the way. "Some people do not consider" means that person did not care to think about it (completely impartial). "Someone who does not earnestly what ...", which means that people do not earnestly desire, nor striving to get a certain good qualities is called aspiration. "Someone does not aim to ..." means that the person does not loom large in the policy ideas of his generosity goal. In the question: "Does someone unintentionally promote ..." "for someone not thinking anything ... think twice" means the person does not devote effort on alms which to target something, or maybe he does not want to (interested) enjoy (achievement by giving alms) can also be understood as the person does not care about the merit accumulated by bringing alms again.
For questions: "Is there a second exposure coordinate reasonable?" etc .. rival sects rejected because, the father can not combine the two into contact, etc .. in the same time. Rival sects agree approval. because (the opposite sex) etc .. gross exposure of both the recipient and giving alms. (Delegation of the opposition) agree agree, because the views of (sect opposite) is a combination of five modes of consciousness.
After the end of the argument and to directly attack the opposite sex, he asked a question about Sakavadin qualities goodness, etc .. Related to this matter, the opposite sex and to refute, because the qualities good and evil can not coexist at the same time together is. Rival sect also agreed agreed, because the views of (sect opposed) comes from enjoying continuously separated from consciousness. [71]
Then Sakavadin longer prevent rival sects with excerpts from Buddhist scriptures. To demonstrate the Buddhist texts, have the "merit always promoted" was mentioned related to merit appeared soon after recalled, then is discarded etc .. like the idea of a plantations. etc .. verse describes "for those who merit giving a continuous stream flowed." also referred to as such items are necessities and give to someone constantly focused meditation and by the acceptance of such generosity, "that person may be interested to get a robe I donate "here the opposite sex found that people who received tenure (alms) there. [99] But for the merit always increases because the material gives alms, so, after the receiver had not alms that tenure, so the views of Sakavadin becoming stronger. In this sense the statement that "the recipients of alms, have accepted" should be understood as the recipient of alms received alms.
At this point the rest of became obvious.
Rate table debate on the merit system at the practical end here.
Since there are the following verses:
"Thanks to the generosity what on earth do
people deceased is divided section reports results" [72]
people deceased is divided section reports results" [72]
Views some people, according to the sect Rajagirikas and alms Siddhathikas a robe, etc .. done in this world, will be happy in the afterlife fruit anymore. Related to this point Sakavadin asked: "Does being released, this world, is maintained even in the afterlife?" Rival sects agree approval. Also, when questioned about the opposite sex alms also robes etc .. really? (Opposite sex) rejected, "Affordable, an effect can also affect others more reasonable?" This statement means that affordable someone also awarded the others to do so now or not? Meanwhile they did not perform this operation. When asked about this, the opposite sect rejected, for fear of going against what is said in the Buddhist scriptures. In the sentence, "For the implementation of generosity" means a person who witnessed the implementation of alms. At this point thanks to the approval of alms, they get happy results, even in the afterlife as well. Therefore, the opposite opinion sect, sought to establish is not acceptable, material alms in this world, they can not feed the hungry ghosts ie (peta).
This is also the method used to prove the remaining Buddhist texts.
Rate Effect debate by giving alms on this earth ends here.
Industrial (or action) towards humans occupied territory and power status. It is said that the rule of kings, the power of the authorities, covered on this earth, and also now (action) of man leads to, reach and power domination . That is why there are some people, [100] billion as the Andhakas said that this earth is the result of karma (action) so.
Concerning these Sakavadin ask: "Is this outcome is the result of industrial or what? Mission opposition agreed in agreement." Is this earth feeling of euphoria or not? etc .. is the question raised by the results demonstrate the nature of the business.
Through descriptive statements, "Is this earth contact or what?" etc .. contact the point of view of career achievements is divided into a refreshing feeling, etc .. (Feeling) and cognitive etc .. again linked with a refreshing sensation etc .. is meanwhile feeling etc .. plus a refreshing awareness etc .. all of these things each event has its own causes and conditions. We suggest immediate an effect known as the center of growth. Etc .. At that feeling comes from solidarity with the now (action) is feeling optimistic. A win this Convention expressed through desire, is a basic desire. A question was put out- Is Earth really this nature or not? Opposite sect denies. The meaning of this indirect verification etc .. was so obvious.
For questions: "Is everybody is sharing the fruits of other people now? Phai opposition also rejected this because they involve feelings etc .. (the opposite sex) to agree endorsed because emerging forms of operational and earth, etc. .. anyone can share with each other is so ... In the matter of what can not be shared; Santisutta [73] is Drawn from a rival sect's doctrine and proven.
Also related to the question: "Are all beings can enjoy the fruits of what exists on earth?" opposite sect rejected, because there are people who do not depend on this earth, opposing sects agree approval for those beings have to depend on this earth. As for the question "Is it also beings to disappear completely from this earth, without enjoying any of the benefits brought by this earth?" rival sects agree approval because beings have disappeared completely into the invisible realms.
An expression has been talking up, involving rival sect's doctrine, urges: "Do not deplete accomplishments have now experienced" Some people advocate that there are beings to be destroyed completely full [74] , without being exhausted (ie lose) the fruits of karma (or behavior) they experienced. However, the doctrine of those who Sakavadin guidelines, then people can not be passed without the depletion of the entire results of karma (or behavior) they experienced, has also done when the opportunity took out. According to their opinion, this earth, is the result of industrial general (or behavior) collective, ie the results have been made.It needs to be convinced, that is, once not deplete what remains, as to the industry, it is impossible to be able to pass (or destroyed) completely. Both rival sect also rejected because of his own views.
To the question "Does this earth is the result of karma (action), a man of the earth king like this?" Opposite sect rejected, because the policy has not been in contact with anybody sharing etc .. (sect opposed) agree agree to what is shared only. They advocated, earth, ocean, moon, sun vv.la results common to all beings now.
[101] In the expression "karma to reach the dominion" The word "dominion" here means the great assets."Power" implies action, catch the whole being under the dominion of one people and accounts for dominion is understood, that all human beings should worship them. Here type this now, is beneficial because of the merits of giving now, not because of the results of that now. Therefore, the nature of that business results are not shared with any beings at all.
Rate debate on this earth and now brings results.
There are now leading to some elderly, and others lead to death or life-shortening. These are leading to the old industry, known as decay or aging, and the public now, leading to reduced life expectancy is called death. Now, because now exists, leading to aging and death. So some people, billions Andhakas example has advocated, for the old age and death, now is the result of that only. Concerning these Sakavadin questioning, opposing sects agree approval.
In the opposite question, the phrase "no object" means that if the current situation does not have a physical object, and if the status quo that invisible objects also do not have notes, so there is not any sign correlations between the aging and death.
To the question "Does aging and death, due to the intellectual status quo worse, result in the bad status quo, whether it takes place before?" opposite sect rejected because they advocated aging and death, may be unexpected results. Because of the opposite sect that rejects, for the state of aging and death, when intelligence is still in good condition is the result of previous good condition. On the other hand, (the opposite sex) disagree endorsed the idea for which was the result of the previous status quo worse.
In sentences expressing opinion "due to the current state of both the good and the bad intelligence" were grouped a single question. Two current situation can not occur simultaneously. May appear an occasion makes us think that aging and death situation, the results have not yet been explained. Because questions can no longer be made about what has not been explained well.
In the interpretive question "what leads to bad things"; here "bad" means "to bring color is not pure." The termination of life ", is understood to be no longer able to sustain life for much longer." On this point, consider the perspective of ethics, bad karma is the cause of creating ugly appearance, but this appearance created by the industry. However this is not the result of differences. In addition, the causes can occur due to physical order and creates disturbance, vv.hoac destroyed by the body [102] that out. Therefore, the Administration (or operational) lead to deterioration or end of life. etc .. now back as a result of it created. The remaining section is similar to what is said above.
Rate debate on aging, death and the end result of here now.
IX . Rate Debate: The current status of noble intellect and achievements from which the (now St. results).
Some people, such as those Andhakas billion, advocates say, results monastic life, just to get rid of the corrupt in life; such is the status quo as well as the characteristics [75] appropriate. Concerning these issues, Sakavadin ask questions: "Are there no effect of Scripture or what now?"
In that case, because according to his own ideas, antagonistic sects agree approval. In the expression: "The results of the current status of the holy religion" means direct result holy status quo is also the Sacred Way, and Sainthood purposes only remove the corrupt in life. In the phrase "spiritual life" is understood as a career of the hermit, or the name of Noble. As is mentioned as follows: "I will show you that life and the holy monk from that place." [76] This is also related to methods of dignity Brahman. In the question: "Is it holy by Remember also create consequences or what?" etc .. (the opposite sex) confirmed that the fruits of holiness does not produce results related to the Holy church of the Party in Save etc .. are accumulated reborn.(Delegation of the opposition) dismissed as holy by giving anonymous alms liberation. etc ..
What was seen as creating accumulations (reincarnation)? When talking about the right to understand the cumulative result. It makes cumulative incremental called cumulative creator is reborn. It minimizes the result is called rebirth's cancellation. Therefore (the opposite sex) agreed to endorse and appropriately rejected.
Opposite sect questioned back, "What good is done has nothing to do not sense that holy accumulate and be reborn to cancel it?" etc .. Sakavadin confirmed there and then dismissed. What makes the mundane friendly, bring holy, destruction is eliminated along with the cycle of rebirth (N) are cumulative, it is the cumulative work performed (rebirth) of this. It created holy, canceled and destroyed along with the cycle of rebirth reincarnation, was the one who canceled was reborn. [103] It is in this way that creates results. What not to bring holy by the word Buddha said: "That ruined reborn." what Sakavadin affirmed and rejected should be understood in this sense.
Rate the current state of debate on the holiness and wisdom from that holy place finish here
"As per the results of the industry, are correlated with the results through others, etc .. so some people, such as those under sect billion Andhakas undertakings: main results are necessarily the cause of creation other results. [77] In relation to this issue Sakavadin questioned, opposed sects agree approval.
In the question "Are there types of results in the form of there?" etc .. this was called into question as follows: According to your opinion, does not lead to the results generated from the status quo that result, also the current situation creates another similar? Opposite sect rejected because not see the status quo to create such results occur in the future. When asked again, (opposite sex) to agree to endorse, because it is holy because some other holy person most likely will also appear. But if so, then the result is good or bad, definitely will happen, and this in turn results could produce different results; This will place a series of endless holy chain and never ending. When asked again, the opposite sect rejected for fear of going against the theory (the opposite sex) is advocated. As for the question, "the results, why?" etc .. rival sects rejected, because I thought, if by comparing the word "results" and "result in the status quo which" is consistent, then the status quo created good results and bad results, including less be born will be consistent with each other.
In the question: "Is it the result is artificial results identical reasonable?" the problem is: "Mission opposing anything considered among the four groups [78] that the spiritual achievements as creating three other groups too clearly correlated mutually in each time one. [ 79] When asked: is it "results" and "people" have the same content and origin reasonable? " Rival sects agree agreed: "Yes yes" Then to persuade rival sects Sakavadin says the following: As you have proven the existence of "results" and "human" spiritual place in group four the same time, the next result these achievements will occur simultaneously, etc ..
[104] Delegation of the opposition dismissed, that are relevant to the current state of the status quo created form results, is good or bad. Is it such a status quo, in the case of bad spiritual status quo is the result of it or what? "According to you which means" results and the identical reasonable? "The next thing occurred as a result a bad status quo is also a bad result or what? " As a result identical to human.
In the sentence: "Thanks to features reciprocity" as has been mentioned as the only way to create interrelated. Therefore four "elements (aggregates) large" (mahabutani) correlated well with each other, but not so for those "achievements" and the other person's creation. "END=NAM MO AMITABHA BUDDHA.( 3 TIMES ).VIETNAMESE TRANSLATE ENGLISH BY=THICH GIAC TAM.THE MIND OF ENLIGHTENMENT.VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST NUN=GOLDEN AMITABHA PURELAND=AUSTRALIA,SYDNEY.1/12/2016.
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